Bilge Question(s)!


Divergirl

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Hi All....as most of you know, I am the 2nd owner of my 2002 41 PC, and I have owned it 20 years. She is a well- maintained vessel. She is listed and as it is not an emergent situation, if she doesn't sell that's ok. As most of my friends have left south Florida, I have lost a lot of support, whether it be hurricane prep, general maintenance, cleaning, etc. That was really my impetus for selling. If I keep her, I guess I have to make new boat loving friends! :)

Since I have owned her, there has always been some amount of water in the bilge. Through the years, each & every person who has performed work which involved being in the engine room, would say "why is there water in the bilge"? I actually contacted Formula and was told that the 41 PC is a "wet boat" and there is nothing wrong with some water in the bilge. As I have replaced pumps when necessary and, she has never sunk, I was ok with it. In the process of cleaning her up for sale, the guy I hired, Oscar, and who was recommended by the broker, has done such a fabulous job, I am reluctant to sell. The whole engine room has been redone...engines cleaned & painted...a brand new floor...it looks great, like new. During this whole "getting the boat ready for sale" process, he found that the hoses/tubes for the bilges needed replacing, and they were. I came home one day to find what looked like a long, dead snake on the dock. So now, the mid and aft bilges are clean and dry as a bone. Is it possible those hoses needed replacing when I bought her? She was only 1 1/2 when she came to live at my dock. It's a boat...anything is possible, right?

Here is my question....as Oscar was spending so much time in the engine room, he did not know that there was a third forward bilge in the salon, in one of the floor holds. When he proudly showed me the clean, dry bilges in the engine room, I said how does the forward look? He said "what forward"? When we looked, it of course, had water in it as it always has. He asked me what I though created the water in the forward bilge. I said "no clue".

Anybody know?

"tanks",
Divergirl
 
If I keep her, I guess I have to make new boat loving friends! :)
My guess is this should not be a problem

41 PC is a "wet boat"
Guessing, look for AC condensation

My 27PC AC condensate drained into the forward bilge. The forward bilge contained the shower bilge pump and also a suction line coming from the vacuum pump located in the engine room. A float located behind the AC unit would energize the Vac pump to almost empty the bilge before shutting off
 
Tanks AllDodge! My guys are on the boat now, and they found a hose which had been cut, from the front (master cabin) A/C unit. The cut hose is inside that forward bilge, and then he sees the other end in the aft cabin when we pulled out the cushiosn.
 
On my 34 PC, after a heavy rain, I see some water in the bilge, (engine room only). I traced it to where my canvas and hard top come together at the hull. Water kind of makes its way along the track for the canvas and down along the inside of the hull, draining into the bilge. I'm wondering if your radar arch does something similar.
 
Hi there....what we found, I think, is that the master cabin A/C condensate hose goes through that forward bilge, and on through the guts of the boat and dumps into the mid- engine room bilge. That is what is supposed to happen. But, someone cut that condensate hose, and you can see that in the forward bilge located in the salon floor. So, that forward A/C unit condensate is dumping into the forward bilge and not making it back to the engine room bilge. Who in the heck would do something like that is beyond me. What would be the objective AND, how can this be fixed?
 
Don't know for sure which question is being asked, so I'll try all sides

Does the forward bilge have a bilge pump?
If it does then maybe that pump is there to pump the condensate out
If there is no bilge then the line was cut, unless there is a drain leading to amidships bilge

If the forward condensate line is cut, meaning the other end of the line is also in there?
Or if line is not there, is there a hole which a line could go thru into amidships or engine bilge?
 
Those are all good questions AllDodge! The forward bilge, in the salon floor, does have a float switch and a pump. I do not think it was designed to collect the condensation from the forward A/C, and I say that because I see the hose coming from the forward A/C cut, and inside the bilge compartment there in the salon floor. It appears that the forward A/C condensation should be flowing through that cut hose, straight back through the guts of the boat and into the mid- engine room bilge. Why I started looking into this is that the high-water alarm went off. That forward/salon bilge was full of water and apparently and the pump had burned out. So, the guy who has been working on cleaning up Divergirl for sale, mainly the engine room, saw the cut hose. As I rarely go into that bilge, I never noticed it, nor did anyone through the years who did any service on the boat. So, what would be resolution would be to replace or reconnect that hose from the forward A/C to the mid-engine bilge.....if that is even possible.
 
On my 41PC the condensate drains into the sump in the engine room. The sinks drains go into the sump also. My sump box was broken apart when I bought the boat so I had a new one made. I have 4 or 5 drains that go into the sump, don’t remember exactly which. Then the sump drained to a pump in the stern and it pumped to the multi input through hull on the port side. It was a huge PITA to access that pump so I put a Whaler pump in and ran it out the starboard side.
 
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