Hydraulic jack for headliner


Divergirl

Divergirl

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If anyone on this forum has replaced the headliner, please see these pictures as they note where Formula advises using a hydraulic jack to remove the panels indicated with the yellow arrows. The guy who is doing the job is a bit confused about this. Can anyone offer advice?

"tanks"
Divergirl
 
Have not done one but reading the instructions its telling me that the panels are under the bulkheads. The overhead needs to be lifted slightly to slide the panel out
 
Hi, A jackhammer is a violent impact tool used to break concrete. A bottle jack is a small pushing device that is very controllable. 2 different tools.:cool:
 
If they are only held in with velcro you should be able to pull them out with some force. Remove any thing that is connected through them, I am doing mine on an older boat and had to pull pretty hard on where it was pinched. Good luck
 
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If anyone on this forum has replaced the headliner, please see these pictures as they note where Formula advises using a hydraulic jack to remove the panels indicated with the yellow arrows. The guy who is doing the job is a bit confused about this. Can anyone offer advice?

"tanks"
Divergirl
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Have you finished yours??? Just started mine what a nightmare. I hate boat builders that make nothing easy.
 
I did not go any further after I received an $8,000 quote which, is utterly ridiculous. The only area needing replacement is the salon. All wall material has been replaced and the aft cabin and master cabin headliners are fine. So, I deal with a slightly saggy salon headliner. My boat is in the water 24/7, 365 but it is also air conditioned all year and I buy those moisture eliminators from the Dollar Tree and place them all over the inside of the boat and, change them out every few weeks. Kind of keeps "things" at bay!
 
Just a crazy thought, but what if you made a small cut in the sagging portion of the headliner and then shot some spray adhesive through that cut into the area? You'll then need something to hold it up (e.g. thin piece of plywood/luan with a post under it) while it cures but it may be a way to get some improvement to your situation.
 
I did this repair on a 1994 34 PC and the job went very smooth. You only need a little pressure to separate the top from the wall. I was able to re-use the same upholstery as only the glue failed.
 
I tried that but the foam that was between the headliner and wood had disintegrated, when the sprayed area dried it was adhered to the wood without the foam, almost looked worse. I used 3M headliner glue and had to order another can because the first can was damaged at the nozzle. To fix it right you gotta spend the dough or spend the time.
gustaf said:
Just a crazy thought, but what if you made a small cut in the sagging portion of the headliner and then shot some spray adhesive through that cut into the area? You'll then need something to hold it up (e.g. thin piece of plywood/luan with a post under it) while it cures but it may be a way to get some improvement to your situation.
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I will need to do this on my 330 SS at some point over the next year or 2. I have replaced the center panel of the headliner as it is a separate piece with backer board. The outer pieces are just glued to the underside of the deck, no backerboard. Wondering if the 'lift' method will work for the outer edges of the headliner material.

All too often, it seems that the foam needs replacing and not just a re-glue.
 
I'm thinking about changing the headliner in my 96 34PC. To the person that's done this in a 34PC already, did you change out everything? Is it true that the overhead panels have to be taken out from aft to forward? Or is it possible to do just the front, then the galley? Appreciate any advice you can give, I'm trying to fight the intimidation factor at this point.
 
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We did our panels and are really happy with the results. Not an easy task but worth it. The instructions Formula provides are a great guide. The panels interlock wit the center. The outer panels slide out enough to remove the attaching screws, then slide the panels to the center to remove. The panel over the galley is easier if the arch for the rear panel is removed. The aft cabin panels we couldn?t get out without cutting it. Reinstalled with a similar product to whisper wall. Also used the insertable tracks for the shower surround. One tip is use stove fuel to remove the old contact cement from the panels.
 
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My 2000 has a different headliner system in the forward berth. Guess it is the track system and it does not sag.
 
After doing both types of headliner the track system seems it would hold up better over time but I’ve also heard people have problems with the track loosening up over time. Since I’ve done both labs after time maybe I’ll be able to report which is better.
 
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