Sea Foam Gasoline / Diesel Additive


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Has anyone used this product? If so, what did you think.

I have 5.7 Volvos' and my Volvo Mechanic has strongly suggested that I add this to my fuel [already treaded with Stabel (sp?) ] to increase the Lubricity of the Gasoline (while also acting as a cleaner for the Fuel Injectors) which has been decreased by the introduction of Ethanol - E-10. He feels that without the increase in Lubricity, the Fuel Pump(s) are more likely to fail/burnout.

I tend to agree with him but wanted to bounce this off of my fellow-Formula Forum colleagues......

Or should I simply add some Marvel Mystery Oil to the Gasoline?
 
So I use Sea Foam in my Carbed 2 Stroke Dingy Motor...and it does help it run a bit smoother.

However in a injected newer gas engine..and if you already are using Stabil's additive...not sure what more this will do for you in all honesty. Don't think it will hurt and many swear by it...but I doubt you will see any noticeable difference.

If you did not use Stabil I would say the Seafoam would help with some of the Ethanol stability issues....oh make sure you are using the Ethanol fight version of Stabil.

After reading a bit more, I realized I made a mistake...this product will NOT HELP with Ethanol issues..
 
FYI

Sea foam is 20% Isopropyl alcohol 30% Naptha and 50% Pale oil whatever the heck that is.

If you don't want to be adding even MORE alcohol to your fuel then you may want to consider this.
 
Like PJ Mentioned....the msds states it all.

If you want the best, use Redline SI-1 for fuel system cleaning and their Water Remover and Fuel System Antifrreze for lubricity

SI-1 uses detergents not solvents to clean the system.
 
My vote is to run the best fuel you can buy locally and don't add a thing.. Why add any sort of oil to your gasoline unless it's for two stroke application?
 
I think if you are running Ethanol Base Fuel is it imperative to use something to help minimize separation. Just not Sea Foam for that purpose.
 
IN MY OPINION, SEAFOAM PRODUCTS ARE JUST ABOUT THE BEST OUT THERE.
I USE THEIR BUGS B GONE PRODUCT RELIGIOUSLY FOR REMOVING BUGS FROM MY TRUCKS.
IT EATS THEM WITHOUT TOUCHING THE WAX.
THIS COMPANY HAS BEEN AROUND FOR YEARS, AND HAS ALOT OF DIFFERENT PRODUCTS.
 
I'm more concerned about the Lubricity of the Gasoline at this point in time and NOT Ethanol phase-seperation. I have been treading my Gasoline with Stable (Blue throughout the Summer and Red for Winter layup and am very very satisfied.

Volvo seems to be having problems with their fuel-pumps failing due to lack of Lubricity caused by the E-10 laced Gasoline. As such, I want to heed my Volvo Mechanic's advice and introduce some type of Lubricity Additive that has proved successfuel to my fellow Formula Owners.

As a note, my Volvo Mechanic attended Volvo's Annual Training class over the Winter which is where he was informed of this Lubricity challenge.....

That said, right now, it boils down to Seafoam or Marvel Mystery Oil. What do y'all think? I'm more inclined to add a small amount of Marvel Mystery Oil and call it a day. Not sure if adding SeaFoam (Iso-propyl Alcohol / Naphtha and Pale Oil) to Gasoline containing 10% Ethanol and Stabil additive is the best way to go.....
 
So because I gave some crappy advice inititally...I had to do some more research...what I found is that if you want increased lubricity then MMO or Riselone and not Seafoam...
 
SeaFoam products are not even close to the best out there...

The MSDS don't tell the whole picture, but does give you a very good idea of what is in each companies products. Marketing is key, but doesn't mean that it's a good product. Stuff that is sold mass market might seem the best, but isn't.

For those of us that are lucky to have ethanol free fuel, it helps...

The others with ethanol based fuels, it's a different story.

I don't like to make too many comments on this, because each person holds their own feelings on what is best, etc....Just like motor oil !

No matter what, it is very important to treat ethanol free or ethanol based gasoline. Detergents are much more effective than alchohol and solvents....
 
Here is a independant test that was performed for Diesel additives but some are also for Gas. It has MMO oil listed and did not favor well.

Read the full test. explains a lot on wear
http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/showthread.php?t=423297

RESULTS
In Order Of Performance:

1) 2% REG SoyPower bio-diesel
HFRR 221, 415 micron improvement.
50:1 ratio of baseline fuel to 100% biodiesel
66.56 oz. of 100% biodiesel per 26 gallons of diesel fuel
Price: market value

2) Opti-Lube XPD
Multi-purpose + anti-gel
Cetane Improver, Demulsifier
HFRR 317, 319 micron improvement.
256:1 ratio
13 oz/tank
$4.35/tank

3) FPPF RV, Bus, SUV Diesel/Gas Fuel Treatment
Gas and Diesel
Cetane improver, Emulsifier
HFRR 439, 197 micron improvement
640:1 ratio
5.2 oz/tank
$2.60/tank

4) Opti-Lube Summer Blend
Multi-purpose
Demulsifier
HFRR 447, 189 micron improvement
3000:1 ratio
1.11 oz/tank
$0.68/tank

5) Opti-Lube Winter Blend
Muti-purpose + anti-gel
Cetane improver
HFRR 461, 175 micron improvement
512:1 ratio
6.5 oz/tank
$3.65/tank
Copyright? The Diesel Place & A. D. Spicer - 6 - August, 2007

6) Schaeffer Diesel Treat 2000
Multi-purpose + anti-gel
Cetane improver, Emulsifier, bio-diesel compatible
HFRR 470, 166 micron improvement
1000:1 ratio
3.32 oz/tank
$1.87/tank

7) Super Tech Outboard 2-Cycle TC-W3 Engine Oil
Unconventional
(Not ULSD compliant, may damage 2007 or newer systems)
HFRR 474, 162 micron improvement
200:1 ratio
16.64 oz/tank
$1.09/tank

8) Stanadyne Lubricity Formula
Lubricity Only
Demulsifier, 5% bio-diesel compatible, alcohol free
HFRR 479, 157 micron improvement
1000:1 ratio
3.32 oz/tank
$1.00/tank

9) Amsoil Diesel Concentrate
Multi-purpose
Demulsifier, bio-diesel compatible, alcohol free
HFRR 488, 148 micron improvement
640:1 ratio
5.2 oz/tank
$2.16/tank

10) Power Service Diesel Kleen + Cetane Boost
Multi-purpose
Cetane improver, bio-diesel compatible, alcohol free
HFRR 575, 61 micron improvement
400:1 ratio
8.32 oz/tank
$1.58/tank
Copyright? The Diesel Place & A. D. Spicer - 7 - August, 2007

11) Howe?s Meaner Power Kleaner
Multi-purpose
Alcohol free
HFRR 586, 50 micron improvement
1000:1 ratio
3.32 oz/tank
$1.36/tank

12) Stanadyne Performance Formula
Multi-purpose + anti-gel
Cetane improver, Demulsifier, 5% bio-diesel compatible, alcohol free
HFRR 603, 33 micron improvement
480:1 ratio
6.9 oz/tank
$4.35/tank

13) Used Motor Oil, Shell Rotella T 15W-40, 5,000 miles used.
Unconventional
(Not ULSD compliant, may damage systems)
HFRR 634, 2 micron improvement (statistically insignificant change)
200:1 ratio
16.64 oz/tank
price: $0.00

14) Lucas Upper Cylinder Lubricant
Gas or Diesel
HFRR 641, 5 microns worse than baseline (statistically insignificant
change)
427:1 ratio
7.8 oz/tank
$2.65/tank

15) B1000 Diesel Fuel Conditioner by Milligan Biotech
Multi-purpose, canola oil based additive
HFRR 644, 8 microns worse than baseline (statistically insignificant
change)
1000:1 ratio
3.32 oz/tank
$2.67/tank
Copyright? The Diesel Place & A. D. Spicer - 8 - August, 2007

16) FPPF Lubricity Plus Fuel Power
Multi-purpose + anti-gel
Emulsifier, alcohol free
HFRR 675, 39 microns worse than baseline fuel
1000:1 ratio
3.32 oz/tank
$1.12/tank

17) Marvel Mystery Oil
Gas, Oil and Diesel fuel additive (NOT ULSD compliant, may damage
2007 and newer systems)
HFRR 678, 42 microns worse than baseline fuel.
320:1 ratio
10.4 oz/tank
$3.22/tank

18) ValvTect Diesel Guard Heavy Duty/Marine Diesel Fuel Additive
Multi-purpose
Cetane improver, Emulsifier, alcohol free
HFRR 696, 60 microns worse than baseline fuel
1000:1 ratio
3.32 oz/tank
$2.38/tank

19) Primrose Power Blend 2003
Multi-purpose
Cetane boost, bio-diesel compatible, Emulsifier
HFRR 711, 75 microns worse than baseline
1066:1 ratio
3.12 oz/tank
$1.39/tank

CONCLUSIONS:
Products 1 through 4 were able to improve the unadditized fuel to an
HFRR score of 460 or better. This meets the strictest requirements
requested by the Engine Manufacturers Association.
Products 1 through 9 were able to improve the unadditized fuel to an
HFRR score of 520 or better, meeting the U.S. diesel fuel requirements for
maximum wear scar in a commercially available diesel fuel.
 
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